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	<title>Comments on: Public Media Camp</title>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
		<link>http://www.welovedc.com/2009/10/17/public-media-camp/comment-page-1/#comment-12892</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 17:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also Arnold/Janet, one easy thing that organizations sometimes do, is allow contributors to earmark their donations for a specific cause within the greater organization. You could check into this with NPR if you&#039;re that concerned about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also Arnold/Janet, one easy thing that organizations sometimes do, is allow contributors to earmark their donations for a specific cause within the greater organization. You could check into this with NPR if you&#8217;re that concerned about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiffany Bridge</title>
		<link>http://www.welovedc.com/2009/10/17/public-media-camp/comment-page-1/#comment-12876</link>
		<dc:creator>Tiffany Bridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s also interesting that &quot;Janet&quot; is posting from the same computer as &quot;Arnold.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s also interesting that &#8220;Janet&#8221; is posting from the same computer as &#8220;Arnold.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
		<link>http://www.welovedc.com/2009/10/17/public-media-camp/comment-page-1/#comment-12872</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The argument that giving money to NPR  makes one more credible is ridiculous.  Donating money to any organization in no way correlates to being well educated and knowledgeable about said organization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The argument that giving money to NPR  makes one more credible is ridiculous.  Donating money to any organization in no way correlates to being well educated and knowledgeable about said organization.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Bridge</title>
		<link>http://www.welovedc.com/2009/10/17/public-media-camp/comment-page-1/#comment-12863</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Bridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 00:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting you think I&#039;m not a member, Janet :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting you think I&#8217;m not a member, Janet :)</p>
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		<title>By: Janet</title>
		<link>http://www.welovedc.com/2009/10/17/public-media-camp/comment-page-1/#comment-12862</link>
		<dc:creator>Janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 00:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the guy who says he&#039;s an NPR contributor is being yelled at people who haven&#039;t said they are NPR members.

Me thinks the guy who ponies up some bucks is more credible than those who don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the guy who says he&#8217;s an NPR contributor is being yelled at people who haven&#8217;t said they are NPR members.</p>
<p>Me thinks the guy who ponies up some bucks is more credible than those who don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: John Athayde</title>
		<link>http://www.welovedc.com/2009/10/17/public-media-camp/comment-page-1/#comment-12851</link>
		<dc:creator>John Athayde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NPR is hardly &quot;just the news&quot;. I would not put &quot;All Things Considered&quot;, &quot;Car Talk&quot;, &quot;A Prairie Home Companion&quot; or WAMU&#039;s &quot;Jazz Saturday Nights&quot; under &quot;news&quot; but these are, in this listener&#039;s opinion, great *radio programs*. NPR does provide great news and that is part of their mission, but they also provide a variety of radio programming akin to the CBS radio of the pre-television age. 

I am amused and frustrated by the (mock?) outrage put forth by those who clamor for government and those it supports to &quot;be more like business&quot; but then complain when they attempt things that are not, in the outraged citizen&#039;s view, exactly in line with a narrow mission.

NPR&#039;s own published mission statement (http://www.npr.org/about/nprworks.html)  says nothing, directly, about &quot;news&quot;: 

&lt;i&gt;&quot;The mission of NPR is to work in partnership with member stations to create a more informed public — one challenged and invigorated by a deeper understanding and appreciation of events, ideas and cultures. To accomplish our mission, we produce, acquire, and distribute programming that meets the highest standards of public service in journalism and cultural expression; we represent our members in matters of their mutual interest; and we provide satellite interconnection for the entire public radio system.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Events, ideas and cultures are the things it pursues, not just &quot;current events&quot;. If you are so enraged by an entity you donate to not focusing on just news, perhaps you should read their mission statement before accusing them of stepping outside of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NPR is hardly &#8220;just the news&#8221;. I would not put &#8220;All Things Considered&#8221;, &#8220;Car Talk&#8221;, &#8220;A Prairie Home Companion&#8221; or WAMU&#8217;s &#8220;Jazz Saturday Nights&#8221; under &#8220;news&#8221; but these are, in this listener&#8217;s opinion, great *radio programs*. NPR does provide great news and that is part of their mission, but they also provide a variety of radio programming akin to the CBS radio of the pre-television age. </p>
<p>I am amused and frustrated by the (mock?) outrage put forth by those who clamor for government and those it supports to &#8220;be more like business&#8221; but then complain when they attempt things that are not, in the outraged citizen&#8217;s view, exactly in line with a narrow mission.</p>
<p>NPR&#8217;s own published mission statement (<a href="http://www.npr.org/about/nprworks.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.npr.org/about/nprworks.html</a>)  says nothing, directly, about &#8220;news&#8221;: </p>
<p><i>&#8220;The mission of NPR is to work in partnership with member stations to create a more informed public — one challenged and invigorated by a deeper understanding and appreciation of events, ideas and cultures. To accomplish our mission, we produce, acquire, and distribute programming that meets the highest standards of public service in journalism and cultural expression; we represent our members in matters of their mutual interest; and we provide satellite interconnection for the entire public radio system.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Events, ideas and cultures are the things it pursues, not just &#8220;current events&#8221;. If you are so enraged by an entity you donate to not focusing on just news, perhaps you should read their mission statement before accusing them of stepping outside of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.welovedc.com/2009/10/17/public-media-camp/comment-page-1/#comment-12848</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Arnold - &quot;things like “Navel Gazing” about the internet instead of working hard on the news is a waste of time&quot; - if newspaper execs had engaged in more introspection, perhaps they would have created something like Google News, acquired or improved upon Craigslist or kept more of the newsroom employed. Instead, the Internet has irrevocably disrupted their business model. Tom&#039;s defense of any expense involved in PublicMediaCamp is valid - sponsorship means that &quot;your dollars&quot; are likely to be untouched. The ideas that were bandied abound at the unconference extend far beyond games to mobile, better us of technology for newsgathering and listener engagement, among many other important areas that deliver on the core mission of NPR. I&#039;d recommend moving the focus past the fantasy news league, which was one idea of thousands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Arnold &#8211; &#8220;things like “Navel Gazing” about the internet instead of working hard on the news is a waste of time&#8221; &#8211; if newspaper execs had engaged in more introspection, perhaps they would have created something like Google News, acquired or improved upon Craigslist or kept more of the newsroom employed. Instead, the Internet has irrevocably disrupted their business model. Tom&#8217;s defense of any expense involved in PublicMediaCamp is valid &#8211; sponsorship means that &#8220;your dollars&#8221; are likely to be untouched. The ideas that were bandied abound at the unconference extend far beyond games to mobile, better us of technology for newsgathering and listener engagement, among many other important areas that deliver on the core mission of NPR. I&#8217;d recommend moving the focus past the fantasy news league, which was one idea of thousands.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Bridge</title>
		<link>http://www.welovedc.com/2009/10/17/public-media-camp/comment-page-1/#comment-12847</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Bridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 17:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NPR has a responsibility, nay a duty, to stay abreast of new media trends and development.  In case you&#039;d missed it somehow, NPR is already in the business of making games and entertainment: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=35&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wait Wait Don&#039;t Tell Me&lt;/a&gt; is a news/comedy/quizshow that airs every Saturday on WAMU for an hour.  It&#039;s appointment programming for me, because it provides news AND entertainment AND does it in a way that&#039;s approachable for the Daily Show generation.

But, if you want to tell me how much you give NPR each year, I&#039;ll gladly stand in for you this time, because this weekend was an important bridge between generations of participants. 

Besides, you don&#039;t give to NPR, you give to the station.  So, recognize the difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NPR has a responsibility, nay a duty, to stay abreast of new media trends and development.  In case you&#8217;d missed it somehow, NPR is already in the business of making games and entertainment: <a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=35" rel="nofollow">Wait Wait Don&#8217;t Tell Me</a> is a news/comedy/quizshow that airs every Saturday on WAMU for an hour.  It&#8217;s appointment programming for me, because it provides news AND entertainment AND does it in a way that&#8217;s approachable for the Daily Show generation.</p>
<p>But, if you want to tell me how much you give NPR each year, I&#8217;ll gladly stand in for you this time, because this weekend was an important bridge between generations of participants. </p>
<p>Besides, you don&#8217;t give to NPR, you give to the station.  So, recognize the difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Arnold</title>
		<link>http://www.welovedc.com/2009/10/17/public-media-camp/comment-page-1/#comment-12846</link>
		<dc:creator>Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 17:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I give my money to NPR because they make great radio news. Things like &quot;Navel Gazing&quot; about the internet instead of working hard on the news is a waste of time. I am INSULTED by the idea of Fantasy sports game being made by NPR. That is NOT what they are about. They are about news.

Training that supports a person&#039;s primary job responsibilities is a good use of funds.

No matter how little money was spent or how much you defend yourself and your participation, NPR is still supported by people like me who give it money to do what they say they do ....give us the news straight.  Not make computer games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I give my money to NPR because they make great radio news. Things like &#8220;Navel Gazing&#8221; about the internet instead of working hard on the news is a waste of time. I am INSULTED by the idea of Fantasy sports game being made by NPR. That is NOT what they are about. They are about news.</p>
<p>Training that supports a person&#8217;s primary job responsibilities is a good use of funds.</p>
<p>No matter how little money was spent or how much you defend yourself and your participation, NPR is still supported by people like me who give it money to do what they say they do &#8230;.give us the news straight.  Not make computer games.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Bridge</title>
		<link>http://www.welovedc.com/2009/10/17/public-media-camp/comment-page-1/#comment-12845</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Bridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 17:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, Arnold, I think I&#039;m being pretty honest about this.  Your opinion is yours, but I think you&#039;re assuming facts not in evidence here.  NPR and PBS have a budget in the hundreds of millions of dollars each year, so an expense like a $1000-2000 conference sponsorship is too small to be considered a drop in the bucket.  

When you consider that this was likely professional development for all who attended, it&#039;s money well spent, when you consider that many conferences with attendees like the CEO of NPR and Craig Newmark of Craigslist (who showed up today) are going to be in the hundreds of dollars per person to attend, this was a steal of an experience.

Do you get similarly upset when organizations you contribute to send staff members to training?  To conferences to discuss what the organization could be doing to better serve their audience?  To promote the work the organization has done already?

I think you&#039;re making a mountain out of a molehill.  But, this is the internet, after all...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, Arnold, I think I&#8217;m being pretty honest about this.  Your opinion is yours, but I think you&#8217;re assuming facts not in evidence here.  NPR and PBS have a budget in the hundreds of millions of dollars each year, so an expense like a $1000-2000 conference sponsorship is too small to be considered a drop in the bucket.  </p>
<p>When you consider that this was likely professional development for all who attended, it&#8217;s money well spent, when you consider that many conferences with attendees like the CEO of NPR and Craig Newmark of Craigslist (who showed up today) are going to be in the hundreds of dollars per person to attend, this was a steal of an experience.</p>
<p>Do you get similarly upset when organizations you contribute to send staff members to training?  To conferences to discuss what the organization could be doing to better serve their audience?  To promote the work the organization has done already?</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re making a mountain out of a molehill.  But, this is the internet, after all&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Arnold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 17:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, my opinion is mine and no matter how much &quot;isn&#039;t much&quot; it still smells of using listeners money for something other than what it was intended for.

And you&#039;re last line in your response makes you sound like a snotty computer kid.  Everyone is entitled to be outraged when they think their charitable donations are being misused.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, my opinion is mine and no matter how much &#8220;isn&#8217;t much&#8221; it still smells of using listeners money for something other than what it was intended for.</p>
<p>And you&#8217;re last line in your response makes you sound like a snotty computer kid.  Everyone is entitled to be outraged when they think their charitable donations are being misused.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Bridge</title>
		<link>http://www.welovedc.com/2009/10/17/public-media-camp/comment-page-1/#comment-12842</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Bridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arnold, the whole budget for an event like this isn&#039;t much. Space was donated, lunch and happy hour sponsored, so the outlay from NPR/PBS wasn&#039;t much in terms of cost and participation for stations was free. 

Your outrage is misplaced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arnold, the whole budget for an event like this isn&#8217;t much. Space was donated, lunch and happy hour sponsored, so the outlay from NPR/PBS wasn&#8217;t much in terms of cost and participation for stations was free. </p>
<p>Your outrage is misplaced.</p>
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		<title>By: Arnold</title>
		<link>http://www.welovedc.com/2009/10/17/public-media-camp/comment-page-1/#comment-12841</link>
		<dc:creator>Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 15:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only tax dollars but the money people giving to public radio stations who say they can&#039;t pay their NPR bills and NPR spends money on this?  I&#039;m not giving anymore!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only tax dollars but the money people giving to public radio stations who say they can&#8217;t pay their NPR bills and NPR spends money on this?  I&#8217;m not giving anymore!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Bridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Bridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 15:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Collaborative R&amp;D is never a waste of tax dollars Arnold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Collaborative R&amp;D is never a waste of tax dollars Arnold.</p>
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		<title>By: Arnold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 15:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this how my tax dollars are being spent?  If there is enough money to waste time on an Un-conference, then they certainly don&#039;t need any more money...what happened to all the stations begging because the economy is in the toilet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this how my tax dollars are being spent?  If there is enough money to waste time on an Un-conference, then they certainly don&#8217;t need any more money&#8230;what happened to all the stations begging because the economy is in the toilet?</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Thorp</title>
		<link>http://www.welovedc.com/2009/10/17/public-media-camp/comment-page-1/#comment-12838</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Thorp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 15:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to see you yesterday Tom.  Had a lot of fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to see you yesterday Tom.  Had a lot of fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Bridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Bridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 02:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s kinda fun how we can recognize interfaces that are so iconic :D</description>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
		<link>http://www.welovedc.com/2009/10/17/public-media-camp/comment-page-1/#comment-12833</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 02:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guy to the far left in the photo is totally using TweetDeck.  Busted.</description>
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