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	<title>Comments on: New Cigar Lounge Coming to Alexandria, Embracing Stereotype</title>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 20:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where establishments in Northen Virgina are cigar friendly--specifically Alexandria and Arlington?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where establishments in Northen Virgina are cigar friendly&#8211;specifically Alexandria and Arlington?</p>
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		<title>By: The Exquisite Contrarian &#124; Irony: smoking law goes into effect, cigar club geared toward men-only membership opens.</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Exquisite Contrarian &#124; Irony: smoking law goes into effect, cigar club geared toward men-only membership opens.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 05:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A New Cigar Lounge is coming to Alexandria, Virginia.  Why?  Because Virginia&#8217;s new no smoking law gave a restaurant&#8217;s owners no other choice but to move their successful cigar smoking clientele to a membership only format.    &#8249;Previous Post Osama bin Laden says the magic words indicating an imminent attack. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A New Cigar Lounge is coming to Alexandria, Virginia.  Why?  Because Virginia&#8217;s new no smoking law gave a restaurant&#8217;s owners no other choice but to move their successful cigar smoking clientele to a membership only format.    &lsaquo;Previous Post Osama bin Laden says the magic words indicating an imminent attack. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: brittany</title>
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		<dc:creator>brittany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 22:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, indeed &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Host_and_hostess_clubs#Host_clubs&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I do&lt;/a&gt;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, indeed <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Host_and_hostess_clubs#Host_clubs" rel="nofollow">I do</a>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tiffany Bridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiffany Bridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 22:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there&#039;s a non-trivial portion of Hooters&#039; clientele that are indeed women, but I think that if Hooters decided to go upscale and start charging $5000 for the privilege of eating their wings and looking at their waitstaff, I expect that number of women who would do so would immediately drop off.

Which is NOT to say that women wouldn&#039;t spend $5000 for private club membership, only that they wouldn&#039;t do it to join a club that is so obviously not intended to cater to them, just as I expect most men would not pay $5000 for the privilege of joining a club not geared for THEM. For 5k, you expect some accommodation, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there&#8217;s a non-trivial portion of Hooters&#8217; clientele that are indeed women, but I think that if Hooters decided to go upscale and start charging $5000 for the privilege of eating their wings and looking at their waitstaff, I expect that number of women who would do so would immediately drop off.</p>
<p>Which is NOT to say that women wouldn&#8217;t spend $5000 for private club membership, only that they wouldn&#8217;t do it to join a club that is so obviously not intended to cater to them, just as I expect most men would not pay $5000 for the privilege of joining a club not geared for THEM. For 5k, you expect some accommodation, no?</p>
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		<title>By: brittany</title>
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		<dc:creator>brittany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 22:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My brief google turned up no reliable-looking current stats, so I have no idea how many women smoke cigars. Anecdotally, back in college when cigars were briefly &quot;in,&quot; there were generally equal numbers of boys and girls having a Scotch and trying to seem &quot;grown up&quot; and &quot;sophisticated&quot;. Do the kids even do that anymore? That said, I have never been in a Hooters, so maybe plenty of women do go there also?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My brief google turned up no reliable-looking current stats, so I have no idea how many women smoke cigars. Anecdotally, back in college when cigars were briefly &#8220;in,&#8221; there were generally equal numbers of boys and girls having a Scotch and trying to seem &#8220;grown up&#8221; and &#8220;sophisticated&#8221;. Do the kids even do that anymore? That said, I have never been in a Hooters, so maybe plenty of women do go there also?</p>
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		<title>By: Tiffany Bridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiffany Bridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 22:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seemed to me, Brittany, that the reason such a choice is economically feasible is that the proportion of female cigar enthusiasts (enthusiasts to the point where they&#039;d pay that kind of money to be a member of such a club) is so vanishingly small that it made more sense to be the rich guy&#039;s Hooters.

But perhaps I am staggeringly underestimating the proportion of wealthy female cigar enthusiasts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seemed to me, Brittany, that the reason such a choice is economically feasible is that the proportion of female cigar enthusiasts (enthusiasts to the point where they&#8217;d pay that kind of money to be a member of such a club) is so vanishingly small that it made more sense to be the rich guy&#8217;s Hooters.</p>
<p>But perhaps I am staggeringly underestimating the proportion of wealthy female cigar enthusiasts?</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Weaver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl Weaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 20:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Must be a douchebag or wear a crappy man scarf to join, I am sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Must be a douchebag or wear a crappy man scarf to join, I am sure.</p>
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		<title>By: brittany</title>
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		<dc:creator>brittany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 20:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no real problem with cigar-smoking and used to occasionally indulge myself, but the &quot;all female waitstaff&quot; thing is beyond hostile to women who might otherwise want to pony up the $5000 to join. Great marketing, bros - you just lost a big segment of your market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no real problem with cigar-smoking and used to occasionally indulge myself, but the &#8220;all female waitstaff&#8221; thing is beyond hostile to women who might otherwise want to pony up the $5000 to join. Great marketing, bros &#8211; you just lost a big segment of your market.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or I could just sit on my back porch and smoke for free...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or I could just sit on my back porch and smoke for free&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Younce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Younce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s too bad it is going to be members-only.  The DC area can you use another cigar lounge besides Shelly&#039;s Back Room.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s too bad it is going to be members-only.  The DC area can you use another cigar lounge besides Shelly&#8217;s Back Room.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 13:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll have that lung cancer with a side order of emphesyma to go, please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll have that lung cancer with a side order of emphesyma to go, please.</p>
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